When we first heard about Intel's
Community PC initiative for rural India, the first thing that came to mind was the
OLPC project, and how Intel seems to be taking it on
around the globe. Now that we've actually seen pics of the box (above), we're not so sure. For one thing, this thing is big. For another, it's, well, really big. There's no question that this is designed to be a stationary object for use in public-access internet kiosks, rather than a truly personal computer like the OLPC. So, while the OLPC is meant to be an all-around educational tool for kids, the CPC is meant to allow the community at large to access email, pay bills online, and update their MySpace profiles. From looking at it, though, we really can't see what Intel's done to make this particularly different from other ruggedized PCs designed to be used in public places. Other than the fact that it's really, really big, that is.
posted Mar 30th 2006 3:58PM
That thing is freakin' huge!! Oh my.
Guess they made it big as a cheap form of crime deterrent - you'd need a Horde of people to move on of these pc’s
It's like the Hummer of desktop computing. Suh-weet!
Looks like a giant N64?
...and how many wires is that connected to the back?
Thats a nice painting of a guy getting owned by the sun and the souls being released into the sky.
Oh yeah and that box is huge even my blazin packard bell wasnt that big when i purchased it back in the 90's. or maybe it was...
You're all wrong. Those children are malnourished and actually only one foot tall. It's actually the size of a Mac Mini.
Does it, perhaps, power more than one workstation at a time? Hence all the wires and the community moniker?
That pic CANT'T be acurate.
i would say this is why it is huge:
(from the article)
Ruggedized chassis: The chassis has been designed to withstand dusty conditions, varying temperatures and high humidity. It has a removable dust filter and integrated air fan to regulate the temperature of the motherboard. The chassis is designed to keep the motherboard cool at temperatures as high as 45 degrees Celsius and the PC resistant to humidity levels of 70 to 85 RH (Relative Humidity).
CPSU: The PC is equipped with a Customized Power Supply Unit which is comprised of an Integrated Power Supply and the UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) unit, which allow the PC to maintain continuous load power in the event of a power outage.
>Looks like a giant N64?
I guess that grey hunk of plastic is where you slide the cartridge in.
Intel is pissing me off, in how they are reacting to OLPC
Well at least no one is going to steal it ..... who the hell would want to? (but at least they are trying right?)
You guys should mention how big it looks. Because I mean look at it... it's really big!
and huge!
Umm, those are all Intel engineers.
show us the real goods!
Heck, it looks just as ugly as pretty much every Windows PC I've ever seen.
Those are the three unhappiest computer users ever. They look like kids opening a box for Xmas and finding it full of socks. Gee ... thanks.
Actually, integrating a UPS into the power supply is a really good idea, because the places this is intended to be used often have irregular power (I've seen lamp cord used to run power...). I wonder if it has a power converter built in as well?
As for the UMPC, I'll take the computer that can run Excel and play Starcraft, and so will everyone else in the world.
Can't they not provide an LCD monitor instead of a CRT?? I supported the SightSavers who worked hard to have these kids' eyesight corrected and checked. Now Intel is ruining their eyes by giving them CRT monitors??? Arghh!!
OMG ROFL POVERTY
"Thats a nice painting of a guy getting owned by the sun"
"You're all wrong. Those children are malnourished and actually only one foot tall. It's actually the size of a Mac Mini."
Those are two of the funniest things I've ever read on this site. I agree with the UPS comment. I also agree with the hatred for Intel in trying to jack the OLPC project.
So when folks in India call tech support do they get those American that you can's understand worth a damn? ;-) *runs and hides.*
It's almost as big as the original X-Box. ;-)
Intel will also develop the "Curryputer" for third world nations, which will come in mild, medium, and spicy configurations.
The real secret is what's under the blue cloth - the other half of the computer ;)
How dumb is it to call this thing a CPC? Does anyone even remember what PC stands for?
So this thing is a Community PERSONAL Computer? Freaking dumb.
Finally something that beats: Windows 2000 built on Windows NT Technology
Which translates to
Windows 2000 built on Windows New TECHNOLOGY Technology.
Thanks Department of Redundency Department
Jeez, that thing is HUGE. I guess it explains the excitement on the kids faces.
are they really so stuck on windows/x86? why not ARM (as in Xscale)? also made by intel. theyre pretty fast, are alot smaller, use way less power, simpler in design (harder to break)...
its not like these are made for starcraft. theyll probably be running MS 3rd world crippled well-look-the-other-way-while-you-pirate-real-windows (so we can expand our monopoly) edition anyway...
So how is being able to surf the internet going to help these people in developing countries? How about helping develop sustainable farming practices, clean water, and learning basic reading/writing/math?
Eric... just a thought but they can learn about all those things on the internet, especially the reading/writing/math part.
The guys who designed the Sirrius units designed this thing..
How is this different from building a cheap whitebox with a ruggedized case? Ignoring performance, one could easily put together a decent athlon-based whitebox for $100; let's say the beautifully huge case costs $100, that's $200. Throw in a used/recycled CRT monitor that goes for $50 on the streets these days, I don't see why Intel is pushing a cost of $400 for these CPCs.
Hmm, how about the logistics of actually sharing the CPC? Let's say guy A is on there reading about fertilizer composition and guy B rolls in needing to get his pr0n on.
Geez, hate to see the hand crank for that thing.
What kind of internet connection do they have in rural India, dial up?
Its not THAT big. its about as big as one of the earlier computers, but it looks bigger because its been turned on its side.
the guy who designed the painting, designed this thing
that painting in the background freaks me
it's pippin-y:
http://www.allaboutapple.com/museo/reportages/pippin/epippin.htm
Intel's aware that you can get a new Dell Dimension B110 with the monitor *and* the speakers for $369 right? you can buy it today right off the internets.
Oh wait, but their customers don't have access to the internets yet, so you can make them pay more, until they get one and realize they've been had...
By the way, the painting comes with it the PC; it is supposed to help increase sales by equating hinduism with white suited fab technicians.
It follows after that whole VIIV logic.
"Look at that 'ole computer there. That thing is E-Normous. All I'm saying is that's one big computer..."
- Tiny Elvis
anyone remember a HP linux box that could take 4 keyboard/video/mouse combos? maybe this is it: http://www.hp.com/e-inclusion/en/project/441_brochure.pdf [pdf link!]. if getting a UPS into the box is so important - why not hang 4 people off that box/UPS..
Due to the constant power outages in rural India it seems Intel has placed a UPS inside.
This is the most depressing marketing department propaganda I have seen in a long time.
"Hmmm, what would poor people sit in? I know. Garden furniture and lets put this mamoth pc on a vegetable crate with a towl tossed over it. Oh, they have to look foreigny, let's put some bizarre religious painting prominently on the wall behind them."
I agree with #17. Wouldn't an LCD display use less power and be more rugged and dust proof than a CRT display?
Its a Typical(Standard Intel) Business Machine Chassis
Theyve been selling that style for years, you only ever saw these in business areas, with that kinda Monitor , Id say theyr Selling Off all theyr old crap in storage hella cheap , We Probably still (reminds me of the old days selling the stuff at thecomputermarket.com ) ;D eew, *chills down my spine*
I don't think the size or design is a problem for this computer, integrating a filter and UPS is a good idea.
"So how is being able to surf the internet going to help these people in developing countries? How about helping develop sustainable farming practices, clean water, and learning basic reading/writing/math?"
In a lot of developing countries people have clean water, basic learning etc. There are not only two types of countries in the world. However I totaly agree that there is no sense in trying to sell computers to people who do not even have clean water.
There was a smillar project in Turkey last year supported by Microsoft. They sold Toshiba laptops to teachers for 600-700$ (nearly 30%-40% cheaper than the market price for the laptops they gave) and Microsoft gave Windows and Office for free. Also a bank offered a good financing plan and it was a huge success.
There are a lot people in the world who can read, write, have phone lines, electricity but no computer. I think products like this one make more sense than the 100$ laptop project, people who do not have electricity will not even be able to afford to buy 100$ PCs, if the goverment pays for them it will only mean more debt for those goverments.
Why don't we just all send over our old but still good computers instead of putting them to the garbage. I'm tired of hearing corporate PR talking about selling poor countries stuff we are throwing away EN MASSE!
A computer is a tool. People in communities often share tools until they have enough money or demand for them to acquire their own.
In rural India the bandwidth can vary from a respectable 512Kbps in villages closer to urban centers to 11kbps with 500ms latency in more remote villages. Many of the design challenges in the software revolve around solutions that can tolerate that situation. Any comments or suggestions on alleviating that would be useful/practical.
Intel is helping solve the hardware challenges for this environment that will help billions of people around the world. Any useful comments there would be great too.
What have you done today to help the world be a better place?
Yes, lets all make fun of the silly foreigners! Look at their crazy crazy paintins and garden furniture with all their crazy crazy cables! LOLZ THESE IRAQiS ARE TEH FUNNIST.
Grow up for f**k's sake. Seen how many cables there are comming out the back of your PC lately?
Anyway....someone mentioned about what internet connections they have - a lot of villages in India have something like an internet booth/kiosk thing which I think has single channel ISDN usually. Intel are aiming this device at these booths.
The monitor is a Samsung Syncmaster (cant see the model number but loks like 57c?)...I'm wondering what the mystery Silver thing in the dock is to the left of the monitor is - web cam? digital camera? mp3 player? I'm wondering if the monitor, speakers etc are included or not - seems like a bit of a random mixture.